Karan Thapar speaks to Sharat Sabharwal, Former Indian High Commissioner to Pakistan, about recent developments concerning India-Pakistan relations. Sabharwal criticises the Modi government's 'muscular policy' towards Pakistan and emphasises the need to address all constituencies. He also discusses Hafiz Saeed, the repeated cycles of hope and despair in Indo-Pak relations, his advice to the new government, terror and the fact that there can never be a consensual definition of terrorism and a terrorist. Click here to support The Wire: https://thewire.in/support